Wednesday, October 19, 2005

Somebody

Performed by: Depeche Mode

Do you believe in love... Do you believe in the need for love...
I don't know about you guys out there... But as for me, this song speaks of everything I ever ask for and/or need...
Hope you enjoy it:


I want somebody to share
Share the rest of my life
Share my innermost thoughts
Know my intimate details
Someone who’ll stand by my side
And give me support
And in return
She’ll get my support
She will listen to me
When I want to speak
About the world we live in
And life in general
Though my views may be wrong
They may even be perverted
She’ll hear me out
And won’t easily be converted
To my way of thinking
In fact she’ll often disagree
But at the end of it all
She will understand me
Aaaahhhhh....

I want somebody who cares
For me passionately
With every thought and
With every breath
Someone who’ll help me see things
In a different light
All the things I detest
I will almost like
I don’t want to be tied
To anyone’s strings
I’m carefully trying to steer clear of
Those things
But when I’m asleep
I want somebody
Who will put their arms around me
And kiss me tenderly
Though things like this
Make me sick
In a case like this
I’ll get away with it
Aaaahhhhh....

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12 comments:

La*Oriente said...

First off this is Jenna, and I commented again on your last post about your dream.
After I read this song and thought about it abit, it seems to me that the beliefs of Depeche Mode concerning love are mostly for the fulfillment of self. Yes they put in a few lines about supporting "her", in general it was all about "me".
I know that most of the world believes that love is self fulfilling with very little sacrifice, but First Corinthians 13:4-8 suggests otherwise.

Love suffers long and is kind;love does not envy;love does not parade its self, it is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in inquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.

Basicly true love equals self sacrifice.

Anonymous said...

Wow wow Jeea !! I can relate so much to this view about love.. It is so realistic and it is actually what makes us know it is love we are feeling.. However, sometimes people tend to think differently about love because of the circumstances they went through.. as getting hurt or being under a lot of pressures (as it is the case for you da fwogg).. and instead of blaming it on those circumstances and "hoping all things" and "enduring all things" while believing that "love never fails", they tend to deny the love they have once had and tend to see loove from the self-fillfullment view..I like what anonymous commented about the dream, when he/she said that no one can promise not to hurt, cause no one who loves wants to hurt.. but sometimes life circumstances are too tough, and here is when we need to stop and think: should we let go or should we "bear all?" what's the truth?what's worth what? instead of denying all that has took place and just believing it was a memory of the past.. I dont know how much u agree with me, but I've been through a similar situation where i felt soooo deeply that love indeed equals self sacrifice.. and i willingly wanted to do anything cause i have believed in love.. and cause I knew it was worth it..

DaFwogg (OmaReina) said...

Jeea: Yes it's true that the view of Depeche Mode in this song seem to be a bit selfish and more about the "me" but this is actually why I like the song. Don't get me wrong, but as much as I would like the idealism that "love never fails" and other love songs that show the ideal view point of love, this song here had the nerve to actually be more realistic and send out this message:
I will love you, I will give you support, I will respect your opinion, I will bear with your mistakes... But I need the same in return and I wanna feel them in order to be capable of returning the love..
Simply, I need to get love as much as I need to give love..
Anonymous: Love is worth self-sacrifice, love is worth bearing with and actually it's the most mysterious force which pushes humans to accept certain illogical facts, "believe the lies, even think that you can fly.." but that is as long as it is present.
Love is a factor that moves people from time to time and keeps a certain uncomprehensible bond between 2 people. However, "their's a thin line between love and hate".. Who decides what is acceptible why it was acceptible or why it wasn't? the people involved individually. How come a person couldn't bear with certain stuff even tough he coped with similar/lesser/worth scenarios? Nobody could answer even the person who took the choice. It's as illogical and complex as love itself. It's one of the mysteries of the human pshyc.
However to simplify things for the sake of this conversation, yes the ultimate meaning of love idealistically is self-sacrifice, baering, giving, forgiving, respect..
But this is earth, this is life, this is flesh and bone. Their's coping, giving and receiving, gain and loss, love and hate, truth and lies, good and bad... So here's my question:
If wanting to gain love truth and respect is that self-centered isn't it your wish too? :)
(Please be honest at least to yourself)
"We all want to be adored" deep down.. What we get and what we give is a totally different matter..

Crystal said...

yes we all want to be adored and loved deep down...it's part of being human but the real question is whether we can love when the other person is unlovable? Because lets face it we are not always loveable, we all have our moments when we are quite not loveable and yet when we are on the recieving end of that can we still love the other person? Or do we allow their unlovable behaviour to squelch our love? It takes a long to go there and we might be on different levels with different people but that is real, true love and the love that I strive to have for others. Love is a principle. does it feel overwhelming sometimes and and do I find that there are some people I just can't love as quickly or as easily as others but the respect and concern for them is something that I still strive to cultivate.

Anonymous said...

Well Da Fwogg, wanting to be loved in return is not selfish, in opposite, when you are loved, it's like your love feelings are being nurtured, and then later you will appreciate love better when you are loving.. Plus love is not returned, it is-in real life and not only ideally speaking- this inner need each person has towards this other person(s)/thing(s).. Plus love cannot be measured, so you cannot love as much as someone would love you, nor can someone love you as much as you would love.. Each one emits love his/her own way, and smilarly, each one receives love.. and here comes the importance of self-sacrifice, as to walk our love on the path that leads to the heart of the other person, and makes a change in his/her life.. CHANGE da fwogg.. when you change, u know u have loved.. when u realize this change was good to u, u realize someone has loved u..and never give up for our ideas and worries..those are just like the devil, they appear when things are mostly perfect.. I agree with you about this uncomprehensive force, however, love rises to other stages with time, as you are sharing things with the other person.. and then the bonds become much clearer than we think.. and then we somehow start being able to direct our thoughts in a way not to kill our feelings(mentioned above).. and you have said it, it's the people involved who decide upon all..I would add it is not only one person..cause love takes 2, and sometimes this bond is fortified or weakened by some ideas that might not be necessarliy true.. I wonder: if you have once believed its love, and you were bearing with all, and when u have believed that the other person have done this, why NOW would you allow your thoughts to ruin your feelings? what I'm trying to say here, is that the 2 views of love complement each other, and should be mutually existent, but it's the way we view things at a certain time what makes us see things from different perspectives and think that things are being illogical.. so what I dont agree with you about is your view about love as being illogical.. in my opinion, love is as simple as understanding ourselves.. if we have always known ourselves, then we have known what we have needed.. and when we were so satisfied, then what has changed now? its not the view of love, no, this is still the same.. but its those worries.. those circumstances, and here is when we can talk about indulging and self-sacrifice.. im not viewing these from the idealistic angle.. in opposite, all im saying is that when feelings are so true, we should make some sacrifice and fight our thoughts, cause they are what might ruin all, and they are the untrue.. its not the lack of love received.. So here's my answer(and Im so honest to myself): yes, I wish to be loved and and and... but I have a greater need to love and care for the person I love, especially when I can understand the needs of that person, and I feel loved simply when I give love, to the ONE whom I feel how much im changing in him/her when im loving him/her.. think about this: "if you love a person, and u know what makes him/her happy and satisfied, why wouldnt you simply do it? regardless of whether you like it or not?" it took me a lot to wake up for this fact, but im glad i realize it now..I just consider it so big of a treasure that I dont wanna waste it but on the person who is not worth it.. do u call this idealistic self-sacrifice?? well, I simply call it love :)

DaFwogg (OmaReina) said...

I'm so sorry anonymous for being rude by saying this but if I get what you're saying right from this part:

"- "if you love a person, and u know what makes him/her happy and satisfied, why wouldnt you simply do it? regardless of whether you like it or not?" it took me a lot to wake up for this fact, but im glad i realize it now..I just consider it so big of a treasure that I dont wanna waste it but on the person who is not worth it.. do u call this idealistic self-sacrifice?? well, I simply call it love :) -"

Then:

1) The person doesn't deserve it from your point of view = you DON'T LOVE him / her. So what are you fighting for? Re-assess your purposes from your relationship.

2) If you know what makes the one you "love" happy and that same thing doesn't make you happy = this relationship is not meant to be. Cause if that person is happy by making you miserable = he / she DOESN'T LOVE you.
Plus when you're in love you naturally do what makes your beloved happy cause it "should" satisfy your needs as well. If you have to push yourself to do it = you DO NOT LOVE that person.

3) If I get all of the above right then this is my conclusion:
I call it stupidity or idiocy to go on in your relationship. He / she is not worth it and you're not worth going trough all that.

All in all, I see you have some issues you need to deal with.
Good luck Anon.

DaFwogg (OmaReina) said...

Hey Crystal,
I think you are mixing up 2 different subjects by your comment. But I thank you for bringing up this subject, it brought into my attention an extra thought which I might have ommited to mention.
You see there's 2 main ideas:
1) Chosing the one you love.
2) Loving the person you chose.

I'm talking about the first idea.
However if I got you right then you're talking about the second one. :)
Keep in Touch.

La*Oriente said...

Right on to the Anon who commented the following:

Wow wow Jeea !! I can relate so much to this view about love.. It is so realistic and it is actually what makes us know it is love we are feeling.. However, sometimes people tend to think differently about love because of the circumstances they went through.. as getting hurt or being under a lot of pressures (as it is the case for you da fwogg).. and instead of blaming it on those circumstances and "hoping all things" and "enduring all things" while believing that "love never fails", they tend to deny the love they have once had and tend to see loove from the self-fillfullment view..I like what anonymous commented about the dream, when he/she said that no one can promise not to hurt, cause no one who loves wants to hurt.. but sometimes life circumstances are too tough, and here is when we need to stop and think: should we let go or should we "bear all?" what's the truth?what's worth what? instead of denying all that has took place and just believing it was a memory of the past.. I dont know how much u agree with me, but I've been through a similar situation where i felt soooo deeply that love indeed equals self sacrifice.. and i willingly wanted to do anything cause i have believed in love.. and cause I knew it was worth it..

La*Oriente said...

Aside, who is the artist who sings "Ya Tayr"?

DaFwogg (OmaReina) said...

Well the artist who sings "Ya Tayr" is the greatest Lebanese singer ever: "Fairuz"
(Check out the song's lyrics)

La*Oriente said...

Thanks, I will

Anonymous said...

Thanx Jeea for agreeing.. I took a look through ur profile and i expected this type of personnality..

And to answer you da fwogg.. well first, i didnt think u were rude,so I dont know why ur apologising.. and I dont think you got my point from what I have said:
"- "if you love a person, and u know what makes him/her happy and satisfied, why wouldnt you simply do it? regardless of whether you like it or not?" it took me a lot to wake up for this fact, but im glad i realize it now..I just consider it so big of a treasure that I dont wanna waste it but on the person who is not worth it.. do u call this idealistic self-sacrifice?? well, I simply call it love :) -"
Then:
1) The person doesn't deserve it from your point of view = you DON'T LOVE him / her. So what are you fighting for? Re-assess your purposes from your relationship.

I WOULD SAY, HOW COULD U TELL FROM WHAT I SAID THAT THE PERSON IS NOT WORTH IT?? IN OPPOSITE, HE/SHE IS SOOO WORHT IT THAT I DONT EVEN THINK IF I LIKE WHAT IM DOING FOR THAT PERSON.

2) If you know what makes the one you "love" happy and that same thing doesn't make you happy = this relationship is not meant to be.
Cause if that person is happy by making you miserable = he / she DOESN'T LOVE you.

HERE AGAIN, U DID NOT GET ME. I SAID I WILL DO WHAT MAKES THE ONE I LOVE HAPPY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT. I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT "MAKING ME UNHAPPY OR MISERABLE". WHAT I MEANT IS THAT SOMETIMES THE THING THAT MAKES THE OTHER POERSON HAPPY OR SATISFIED DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE EXACT EFFECT ON ME; IT MIGHT FEEL NORMAL TO ME, BUT I WOULD STILL DO IT, AND I WILL LOVE DOING IT, SIMPLY CAUSE I LOVE HIM/HER, WHICH AGAIN ANSWERS YOUR FEW LINES THAT FOLLOW:

Plus when you're in love you naturally do what makes your beloved happy cause it "should" satisfy your needs as well. If you have to push yourself to do it = you DO NOT LOVE that person.
3) If I get all of the above right then this is my conclusion:
I call it stupidity or idiocy to go on in your relationship. He / she is not worth it and you're not worth going trough all that.
All in all, I see you have some issues you need to deal with.
Good luck Anon.

:) THANX DA FWOGG.. OF COURSE I HAVE ISSUES THAT I NEED TO DEAL WITH, AS DOES EVERYONE ELSE. I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN MY POINT OF VIEW ABOUT LOVE, WHICH YOU MISINTERPRETED; ITS LIIKE YOU'RE FALSIFYING MY VIEW POINT BY STATING THE SAME VIEW POINT :) TO END IT, I'M SAYING THAT WHEH YOU REALLY LOVE SOMEONE, YOU WOULD LOVE EVERYTHING HE/SHE LOVES, EVERYTHING HE/SHE DOES, EVERYTHING HE/SHE IS.... EVEN THOSE THINGS YOU USUALLY HATED, YOU WILL START LIKING AND ADORING THEM SIMPLY CAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE PERSON YOU LOVE, AND THEN THEY ARE PART OF YOU..